Mugleston's Pitbull Farm?

[candybis]

is that a pic of your bully? very nice.. what s he weigh?

[IAMBULLY]

Originally Posted by candybis

is that a pic of your bully? very nice.. what s he weigh?

He's a she an she's around 70lbs

[candybis]

wow, shes pretty. i cant wait....

[bigbones139]

Goliath must be pretty fat at 142lbs... I have personnally seen Goliath before he was owned by Muglestons and his name was Danja and fit the dog weighed 122lbs give or take in his prime... I dont doubt that he weighs 142lbs but i gurantee he is extremly over weight... He also is NOT 100% watchdog as claimed he is 50% Raging bull wich is where he gets his extreme size... Goliath has produced some of the biggest dogs around no doubts and i have a fair amount of experience with this blood and it produces like mad! Size bone drive structure it has it all but in a taller package...


Candybis.. Latte IamBullys fem is absolutly amazing... She spent some considerable time with me and my fam a couple months back and without a doubt she is my image of a perfect bully female.. Her looks structure size and above all else her temperment and loving demeanor are second to none! And IamBully her owner is also one stand up dude!

[doggydog]

Originally Posted by cmaravilla

This is a really funny thread. I like when people use intellegent when describing a dog. Maybe you need to look up the word before using it. As for Muggleston:

Price: I would pay any amount for the right dog/puppy. People have different prefferences when it comes to Bullies. I myself do not like the XXL dogs that they produce, but that does not mean that the dogs are ugly or are not worth the price, their just not my preference.

Reputation: I have met three people that have bought a dog or puppy of Muggleston and 1 of is probably lying to themselves about how happy he is with what he got, because in my opinion He is not breeding quality), the rest of them are totally unsatisfied. You can not compare a car to a puppy. Cars don't grow up looking different than when you bought them. To a novice, buying a puppy and not knowing what to look for would expect a good breeder to be honest about what he is getting and not treat it like a car sale. One of the people I met was told and promised that the puppy would look a certain way, and it turned out totally opposite of what was expected. IMO, if I pay top dollar for a puppy, he should turn out the way the breeder promised. Also, more than one unsatisfied customer to me, is enough to make me turn around and look elswhere.

Just my opinion.

Its funny to hear you say you know 3 people that are either lying to themselves of are totally unsatisfied with their mugleston dog...then you end uo saying its just your opinion. sounds like you are sure in one sentence then just expressing an opinion in the next. I personally have a dog that was from mugleston's , but was not produced by mugleston. I am very happy with my dog AND I'm NOT LYING TO MYSELF. I ALSO SERIOUSLY DOUBT YOU REALLY KNOW 3 PEOPLE THAT HAVE MUGLESTON DOGS. Muglestons is a group that i probably would never deal with because I've researched their kennel for sometime. That however doesn't mean I'm gonna talk bad about them. Everyone here that has the attitude that they can degrade someone obviously thinks they're better than others, but are probably just insecure. I know several people like that in my bully community and its hard to work with them.

[bigbones139]

Originally Posted by doggydog

Its funny to hear you say you know 3 people that are either lying to themselves of are totally unsatisfied with their mugleston dog...then you end uo saying its just your opinion. sounds like you are sure in one sentence then just expressing an opinion in the next. I personally have a dog that was from mugleston's , but was not produced by mugleston. I am very happy with my dog AND I'm NOT LYING TO MYSELF. I ALSO SERIOUSLY DOUBT YOU REALLY KNOW 3 PEOPLE THAT HAVE MUGLESTON DOGS. Muglestons is a group that i probably would never deal with because I've researched their kennel for sometime. That however doesn't mean I'm gonna talk bad about them. Everyone here that has the attitude that they can degrade someone obviously thinks they're better than others, but are probably just insecure. I know several people like that in my bully community and its hard to work with them.

I no lots of people that have Mugleston dogs.. Many more then 3... Some are really nice and some as stated arent up to par... I also no one of the main suppliers of dogs to muglestons in wich they have bought half there yard from and can personally gurantee his dogs produce! But as stated not all of there dogs produce well but they deffinatly charge for top notch! People talk bad about Muglestons cause they have done bad to many not to discredit them cause that also they have done themselves! I dont beleive anyone is degrading them but they are certainly letting everyone no that if they are a potential buyer of a mugleston dog the chances of being screwed over or getting something other then whats expected and paid for is quite high! Muglestons rep was built by muglestons and the way they treat people and dogs and the numbers of customers that have been screwed over and if they didnt want this to be said about them they shoulda delt people straight up.. Bad rep comes with bad business and maybe you dont understand that but it is what it is and isnt likly gonna change!

[doggydog]

Originally Posted by bigbones139

I no lots of people that have Mugleston dogs.. Many more then 3... Some are really nice and some as stated arent up to par... I also no one of the main suppliers of dogs to muglestons in wich they have bought half there yard from and can personally gurantee his dogs produce! But as stated not all of there dogs produce well but they deffinatly charge for top notch! People talk bad about Muglestons cause they have done bad to many not to discredit them cause that also they have done themselves! I dont beleive anyone is degrading them but they are certainly letting everyone no that if they are a potential buyer of a mugleston dog the chances of being screwed over or getting something other then whats expected and paid for is quite high! Muglestons rep was built by muglestons and the way they treat people and dogs and the numbers of customers that have been screwed over and if they didnt want this to be said about them they shoulda delt people straight up.. Bad rep comes with bad business and maybe you dont understand that but it is what it is and isnt likly gonna change!

I hear what you're saying bigbones and I agree with you that many have been screwed by muglestons (or at least I've heard and I know of one person personally.) I was referring to cmaravillas inference that he knew one person with a dog of muglestons "that was probably lying to himself that he was happy with the dog" and that "he was not producing quality". I also see he or someone has removed that post. In all actuallity cmaravilla has not produced any pups in his kennel, yet is well known for slamming others. Bad attitude on an open forum.

[cmaravilla]

Originally Posted by doggydog

I hear what you're saying bigbones and I agree with you that many have been screwed by muglestons (or at least I've heard and I know of one person personally.) I was referring to cmaravillas inference that he knew one person with a dog of muglestons "that was probably lying to himself that he was happy with the dog" and that "he was not producing quality". I also see he or someone has removed that post. In all actuallity cmaravilla has not produced any pups in his kennel, yet is well known for slamming others. Bad attitude on an open forum.

Whats up Dave. Good to see you on this forum. Just in case you were thinking that I was talking about you, I was not. It totally even slipped my mind that we even had a muggleston dog on Guam. You have obviousely proven your dogs as great producers. If I thought your dogs were not breeding quality, I would have never asked you to buy one of your pups. Remember? I swear on my dads grave, I was not talking about you. Why would I post that about you and deny it? You know me well enough to know that I stand for what I believe even when it gets me in trouble. So if I was talking about you, you know that I would never deny it.

Also, I agree with you about what you said about talking openly about other breeders. If you take a look at the date that I posted that comment, it was a while back, before we even had the incident that happened in our bully community. I have learned my lesson since then.

Slamming isn't the word, Dave. Kinda harsh there. Yes, I have never produced a litter, but I have never slammed anyones productions. Where have I ever said I produced a litter? On our forum, if you read back on it, it was facts that were posted and not opinions. What happened between me and Craig was the screw up on my part and not what I posted about the persons dog. Dave, I invite you to look back on that post and search for where my opinions were posted, because it was not. I merely posted facts. It was others that posted their opinions on the facts that I posted. If you find an opinion by me that slammed the persons production, then I will admit that I did it. I just hope that when you find out it was not me posting the opinions, you will have the decency to apologize to me the way I sincerely apologized for challenging you and Craig. I have invited many people on the forum to look for my opinions on that thread, and they never came up with any. The people that posted opinions were never even talked about. I guess I got stuck with the rap because I argued with Craig, so everyone thinks I started that thread and posted my opinions, but it was actually another member that people over looked because he backed off when the heat came. Check it out yourself, its in the Ordot Dump section of our forum. You have access to it. Im sure you only read what you wanted to, because if you read everything, you will know where the opinions came from. If you like, I will pm you the link.

Also, just to clear the air here, I met most of the people that own muggleston dogs on Myspace and chatted with them on MSN. Like I said, they were not satisfied and I know this because they told me and the other that is probably lying to himself, I know this because his brother was the one that admitted it. So lets not jump to conclusions here. If I could quote those people on MSN, I will, but I do not know how copying and pasting from MSN messenger will be very believable. All I have is my word. Its up to you to believe me or not.

What post are you referring to? My post on Muggleston is still up, you quoted it yourself. In fact, here is the link to that specific post: Mugleston's Pitbull Farm?

p.s. I respect you a lot Dave. You have helped me a lot . I don't see any reason why I would hate on your kennel. So I really hope you believe me on this man. I don't know how I could prove it, but I really am telling the truth. I was reading through the that thread again and I stumbled across one of my posts that will at least prove to you that I was not talking about you and your kennels produce or breeding quality. It is in the first paragraph of my post where I talk about Taga. You can tell it was not altered because of the time stamp of last edit on the bottom of the post. No one else will be able to view it except for the Administrators of our forum. Here it is: http://671bullyclub.com/forum/index....25338#msg25338

I hope this puts this accusation to rest.

[cmaravilla]

Thanx for believing me Dave. I understand how you could have thought I was referring to you.

Im glad we could fix the situation.

Peace buddy.

[Kratos]

Good Info right herre son...

[Greekdog]

Originally Posted by doggydog

Its funny to hear you say you know 3 people that are either lying to themselves of are totally unsatisfied with their mugleston dog...then you end uo saying its just your opinion. sounds like you are sure in one sentence then just expressing an opinion in the next. I personally have a dog that was from mugleston's , but was not produced by mugleston. I am very happy with my dog AND I'm NOT LYING TO MYSELF. I ALSO SERIOUSLY DOUBT YOU REALLY KNOW 3 PEOPLE THAT HAVE MUGLESTON DOGS. Muglestons is a group that i probably would never deal with because I've researched their kennel for sometime. That however doesn't mean I'm gonna talk bad about them. Everyone here that has the attitude that they can degrade someone obviously thinks they're better than others, but are probably just insecure. I know several people like that in my bully community and its hard to work with them.

Can you help me locate Jed? He is not returning my calls and I have wired him money for the puppy.

[Greekdog]

Originally Posted by candybis

i am new to this site but thought i would join as i a m getting a bully from muglestons this friday. im really excited and cant wait. his dad is 145 pds and his mom is 105pds. has anyone dealt with or got a pup from muglestons pitbull farm?

Did you ever get your puppy?

Can you help me locate Jed? He is not returning my calls and I have wired him money for the puppy.

[Greekdog]

Originally Posted by KameoCrush Kennels

Ive always been told to deal with Jed lol Your Boy is nice mike seems to like him aswell. Im thinking about the Boogie/Moonshine Breeding get a low pick see what he turns out to be or Ill skip and wait a lil maybe Tell them Im intersted in Tsunami x Gambler

Can you help me locate Jed? He is not returning my calls and I have wired him money for the puppy.

[Greekdog]

Originally Posted by bigbones139

Goliath originally DANGA of Compactabull kennels is off of Yes Joes Martinez Raging Blue Sable and Hughzees Pretty Boy Blue {Capone}.. Capone is a Direct Watchdogs Beezlbub son.. Sable was sired by MARRALES' RAGING RED BULL and Dam being BOBBIE'S RAGING LADY MIAH Both of wich are Raging Bull blood... Wich back there somewhere there is watchdog... But not directly up front... I have quite a few raging bull blooded dogs and nothing short of amazing.... Size and drive is unreal... I have Personnaly seen Goliath Before Muglestons had him and he was very fit at about 125-128lbs... I do not doubt there stats at all about 130+ lbs i do doubt he is in the shape he once was at that weight!! I no his pics on there site he looks alot fatter and sloppier then what i saw years ago... Gladiator pits in Canada had a Goliath daughter that no bullshit weighed 103+ lbs fit.... She was bred again by compactabull before muglestons owned Goliath... I have had many times where i have spent alot of time with this Raging bull blood Directly off of Goliaths litter and honestly the smallest i have seen is 80+ lbs all the way to 100+ fems! But no matter how good there dogs are i think there marketing and lies on SOME OF THERE DOGS STATS puts doubt to the rest of the yard... And to look at a dog thinking its 100% watchdog then find out thats B.S then right away you doubt everything they say about the dog... Kinda screw themselves i would think... But they sell alot and for alot more then most of us so maybe my thinking is the one thats backwards... Hope this is of help and if you want anymore info or pics of any of the dogs i mentioned or there ancestors or history feel free to ask!

Can you help me locate Jed? He is not returning my calls and I have wired him money for the puppy.